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		<title>By: ryptide</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you're really rules-oriented, Janny.  But exceptions have to be made in politics.

Clinton is right when she says 2.3 million didn't go to the polls because they thought their vote wouldn't count.  Granted, that isn't what she said when she signed onto the DNC stripping their delegations.

Fact is we can't have a nominee without counting everyone who voted for one.

I differ from the Clinton supporters in that I don't think MI should be seated as-voted, and I don't think it will make a difference as to who the nominee is.

This is about beating the Republicans in November.  I'll certainly support seating MI and FL to get that done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you&#8217;re really rules-oriented, Janny.  But exceptions have to be made in politics.</p>
<p>Clinton is right when she says 2.3 million didn&#8217;t go to the polls because they thought their vote wouldn&#8217;t count.  Granted, that isn&#8217;t what she said when she signed onto the DNC stripping their delegations.</p>
<p>Fact is we can&#8217;t have a nominee without counting everyone who voted for one.</p>
<p>I differ from the Clinton supporters in that I don&#8217;t think MI should be seated as-voted, and I don&#8217;t think it will make a difference as to who the nominee is.</p>
<p>This is about beating the Republicans in November.  I&#8217;ll certainly support seating MI and FL to get that done.</p>
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		<title>By: Janny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 16:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I don't think Hillary supporters will support McCain if she's not on the ticket. I can't see hard core democrats supporting a clone of Bush. I can, however, see them staying home or voting for Nader.

I'm fully aware of the consequences of not seating FL or MI. But, honestly, they broke the rules and knew the consequences. I don't think it's fair if they do seat the delegates. They do need to send a message to other states who break the rules. I think it will happen more and more if states see that they can get away with it. I know it will be bad for the Democrats if they don't seat the delegates, but a line has to be drawn.

I think an Obama/Richardson ticket would be the best choice. Two minorities. Richardson will definitely help get the Hispanic (Clinton) votes. Richardson has so much to bring to the table, a big one being experience, which Obama lacks. I don't think McCain would be able to beat this ticket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I don&#8217;t think Hillary supporters will support McCain if she&#8217;s not on the ticket. I can&#8217;t see hard core democrats supporting a clone of Bush. I can, however, see them staying home or voting for Nader.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m fully aware of the consequences of not seating FL or MI. But, honestly, they broke the rules and knew the consequences. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair if they do seat the delegates. They do need to send a message to other states who break the rules. I think it will happen more and more if states see that they can get away with it. I know it will be bad for the Democrats if they don&#8217;t seat the delegates, but a line has to be drawn.</p>
<p>I think an Obama/Richardson ticket would be the best choice. Two minorities. Richardson will definitely help get the Hispanic (Clinton) votes. Richardson has so much to bring to the table, a big one being experience, which Obama lacks. I don&#8217;t think McCain would be able to beat this ticket.</p>
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		<title>By: ryptide</title>
		<link>http://www.ryptide.com/2008/05/14/edwards-endorses-obama/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>ryptide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I promised Sam a response on the lobbyist money issue.

Basically, Obama doesn't take money from federally registered lobbyists.  Lobbyists that work for lobbying firms have to register.  Obama's campaign checks the contributions against that database and rejects anything that comes from a lobbyist.

The limitation there is that lobbyist family and friends can certainly donate money to the campaign, and those lobbyists can certainly funnel money through friends to get it into the campaign.  There is no way to stop that because listing all of a lobbyist's family and friends would be an invasion of privacy.

He has returned large sums of money that have been discovered to have come from lobbyists.  He means what he says when when he says that lobbyists aren't going to own his campaign.  According to the Associated Press, 90% of his donors contribute $100 or less and 41% have donated $25 or less.  His campaign is about the people, and that is one of many reasons he has my vote, my time and has received money from me.  I wouldn't contribute otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I promised Sam a response on the lobbyist money issue.</p>
<p>Basically, Obama doesn&#8217;t take money from federally registered lobbyists.  Lobbyists that work for lobbying firms have to register.  Obama&#8217;s campaign checks the contributions against that database and rejects anything that comes from a lobbyist.</p>
<p>The limitation there is that lobbyist family and friends can certainly donate money to the campaign, and those lobbyists can certainly funnel money through friends to get it into the campaign.  There is no way to stop that because listing all of a lobbyist&#8217;s family and friends would be an invasion of privacy.</p>
<p>He has returned large sums of money that have been discovered to have come from lobbyists.  He means what he says when when he says that lobbyists aren&#8217;t going to own his campaign.  According to the Associated Press, 90% of his donors contribute $100 or less and 41% have donated $25 or less.  His campaign is about the people, and that is one of many reasons he has my vote, my time and has received money from me.  I wouldn&#8217;t contribute otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: ryptide</title>
		<link>http://www.ryptide.com/2008/05/14/edwards-endorses-obama/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>ryptide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd much prefer Edwards as Attorney General.  He'd put the most recent run of them to shame.

I'm not sure that would give him the vehicle for his focus on poverty, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d much prefer Edwards as Attorney General.  He&#8217;d put the most recent run of them to shame.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that would give him the vehicle for his focus on poverty, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can't see an Obama/Clinton ticket.  What is their shared message?  Are there really that many Clinton supporters who would rather vote for McCain than Obama?  I think it would dilute his message and alienate a lot of people.  I, for one, would be disappointed.  And would Clinton really settle for the second-place spot like that?  Not to mention the fact that Obama probably does not want the husband back-seat driving through his presidency.

An Obama/Edwards ticket would be better, but I think still unlikely.  I think he'll choose a less obvious running-mate -- maybe female, but I don't think that he necessarily &lt;em&gt;needs&lt;/em&gt; to.  Most female HRC supporters are probably not likely to vote Republican in any case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t see an Obama/Clinton ticket.  What is their shared message?  Are there really that many Clinton supporters who would rather vote for McCain than Obama?  I think it would dilute his message and alienate a lot of people.  I, for one, would be disappointed.  And would Clinton really settle for the second-place spot like that?  Not to mention the fact that Obama probably does not want the husband back-seat driving through his presidency.</p>
<p>An Obama/Edwards ticket would be better, but I think still unlikely.  I think he&#8217;ll choose a less obvious running-mate &#8212; maybe female, but I don&#8217;t think that he necessarily <em>needs</em> to.  Most female HRC supporters are probably not likely to vote Republican in any case.</p>
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		<title>By: ryptide</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryptide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean, I think if he picks a woman other than Clinton the same people calling Obama and his supporters "chauvinists" will act like jilted lovers having the "new girlfriend" trotted out in front of them.

Completely irrational but from the pro-Hillary blogs I've seen lately, rationality doesn't seem to be a strong point.

I think he'll pick Clinton, but I don't want him to.

A non-Clinton female choice that would be good might be Kathleen Sebelius but I don't know enough about her yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean, I think if he picks a woman other than Clinton the same people calling Obama and his supporters &#8220;chauvinists&#8221; will act like jilted lovers having the &#8220;new girlfriend&#8221; trotted out in front of them.</p>
<p>Completely irrational but from the pro-Hillary blogs I&#8217;ve seen lately, rationality doesn&#8217;t seem to be a strong point.</p>
<p>I think he&#8217;ll pick Clinton, but I don&#8217;t want him to.</p>
<p>A non-Clinton female choice that would be good might be Kathleen Sebelius but I don&#8217;t know enough about her yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama needs a female VP to seal the break in the party.  Senator Clinton would be the *weakest* person to fill that spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama needs a female VP to seal the break in the party.  Senator Clinton would be the *weakest* person to fill that spot.</p>
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		<title>By: ryptide</title>
		<link>http://www.ryptide.com/2008/05/14/edwards-endorses-obama/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>ryptide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol, I agree 100%, and we have seem the impact of Operation Chaos in some states.  It was definitely a factor in Mississippi, and may have given Clinton her small margin in Indiana.

All your other points are right on the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol, I agree 100%, and we have seem the impact of Operation Chaos in some states.  It was definitely a factor in Mississippi, and may have given Clinton her small margin in Indiana.</p>
<p>All your other points are right on the money.</p>
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		<title>By: ryptide</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryptide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sallie, I think Edwards would make a great VP, but Obama has to tread carefully in who he chooses so as to lessen the blow to Clinton supporters if he doesn't pick her.  It is clear that a lot of her supporters don't see it as the best candidate winning, but rather some sort of sexist conspiracy to keep a woman down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sallie, I think Edwards would make a great VP, but Obama has to tread carefully in who he chooses so as to lessen the blow to Clinton supporters if he doesn&#8217;t pick her.  It is clear that a lot of her supporters don&#8217;t see it as the best candidate winning, but rather some sort of sexist conspiracy to keep a woman down.</p>
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		<title>By: ryptide</title>
		<link>http://www.ryptide.com/2008/05/14/edwards-endorses-obama/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>ryptide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll address the rest of your comment later, Sam.  I'm getting ready for work but I wanted to address this "chauvinist" comment.

Why is it that when people vote for Clinton they are voting for who they think is the best candidate, but if they vote for anyone else they are voting *against* the woman?

Clinton supporters can't seem to accept that she *isn't* the best candidate for a lot of Americans, so they seem to have to attach some other reason they aren't voting for her.  

I have seen a TON of comments and poll results regarding race as an important issue to some of the people voting (they vote for Clinton by a large margin).  I haven't seen ANY regarding gender as an important issue.  It isn't about sexism or chauvinism.  We just think Obama is the better candidate.  

Clinton lost my support when she got bought out by the health care industry and now wants to force everyone to buy health care that they still can't afford.  It's a little like fixing homelessness by legislating that everyone must buy or rent a home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll address the rest of your comment later, Sam.  I&#8217;m getting ready for work but I wanted to address this &#8220;chauvinist&#8221; comment.</p>
<p>Why is it that when people vote for Clinton they are voting for who they think is the best candidate, but if they vote for anyone else they are voting *against* the woman?</p>
<p>Clinton supporters can&#8217;t seem to accept that she *isn&#8217;t* the best candidate for a lot of Americans, so they seem to have to attach some other reason they aren&#8217;t voting for her.  </p>
<p>I have seen a TON of comments and poll results regarding race as an important issue to some of the people voting (they vote for Clinton by a large margin).  I haven&#8217;t seen ANY regarding gender as an important issue.  It isn&#8217;t about sexism or chauvinism.  We just think Obama is the better candidate.  </p>
<p>Clinton lost my support when she got bought out by the health care industry and now wants to force everyone to buy health care that they still can&#8217;t afford.  It&#8217;s a little like fixing homelessness by legislating that everyone must buy or rent a home.</p>
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